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Speaking of unconventional food pairings The Peanut-Butter and Bacon sandwich is a surprisingly delicious comfort-food combo (I like to toast the bread and add a dash of worcestershire sauce). I thought I had some obligation to stay friends. I think thats a great suggestion. But in my experience, the kind of mindset that prides itself on being reasonable and feels comfortable saying thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard to ANYTHING their loved one says. Its amazing the first time you realize the difference between actual happiness and just being not-completely-miserable. ! certainly did not help with my mood issues. Remote kissing device for long-distance lovers, invented and patented by Chinese university student in Changzhou City.The mouth-shaped module, served as an inducing area . 2) Even if being prompted to do things like eat better food, exercise to work off stress etc was beneficial to you..its still wrong and bad to do it without an agreement, ESPECIALLY when the promptee has explicitly asked the other person to not do it. Dude wants to deliver improved nutrition for the vulnerable? Its a bit like regaining your sense of smell after a bad cold: not the sign that youre fully healed, but you are going to be ok. Hmmm, actually, that wasnt the post I was thinking of. etc.). Is your boyfriend offering to engage in these wonderful, healthy activities with you? It was tough (and frankly weird) for a bit, but he stopped and were fine. If what he says pisses you off, take it as a good sign that your self-respect and self-preservation instincts are waking up and working. You still get to decide whether you like him. Do not wait until the stress of dealing with him makes your fingers itch for a sharp object (or whatever). And sometimes, just for fun, exercise causes my body to mimic the feeling of a panic attack, and so I get inexplicably upset and frantic about normal life events! LW, Im so sorry youre dealing with this. Then he was a royal PITA trying to get me back, because I turned out to be harder to upgrade than he expected again, hindsight! Maybe BF wants to push you because he thinks your mental health just requires external pushing. And a partner who wants to opt out of working through the bad times would worry me. Feelings of shame and guilt. Essentially, he supported me equally on good days and bad days. Well, I mean, as someone who prefers her boys on the skinny side, it is totally true that everyone gets to have preferences. Emotion or relationship conversations have to start with establishing a logical framework of the situation that makes sense to him; if hes confused, he clams up in great distress. It sings a familiar refrain, and it so neatly echoes what your Jerkbrain sounds like or sounded like before you started getting treatment for your depression. It was exhausting for both of us. He always wants to know the reasons behind them (which admittedly is sometimes frustrating), because he wants to know, not because he wants to prove Why I Am Wrong. Despite all this he was in many ways not a bad guy. If youre not into cooking, make a weekly date to try new restaurants in the neighborhood. Hindsight, sigh. I might even be texting a new girl nothing that crosses the line, but maybe dipping my toes in the water. He may even try and find an alternative route so he can avoid spending time alone with you, or cancel at the last moment if he does suggest it because something came up. Absolutely. There will always be something that can be improved, because people are people, and people are imperfect. She will ask me to do things like remove sharp objects from her living space, check in to make sure shes eating, wake her up in the morning when shes unlikely to get up on her own, phone her psychiatrist to give info/updates about how shes doing, and so on. Ive been dealing with depression for a while, too. We also set aside a weekly time for Partnership Serious Talks and during that time we create a space for advice and suggestions that we then do not revisit at any other point during the week. I think he has a lot of ideas about how this is affecting him, directly. You deserve to be with someone who shows you respect who likes you the way you are, who isnt always trying to fix you and who listens when you ask him to stop certain behaviours rather than telling you your request is ridiculous. How does this affect you? is a lot nicer than what Id end up saying. I cringe whenever I think about how unfair and how disrespectful I was to him, and how much time we wasted together when we each could have been in other situations (partnered or not) that would have been more fulfilling. ), the only logical course of action is taking that into account when youre dealing with people. So, my friends often come over here. My wife suffers from depression and anxiety which results in her not exercising, not eating right (or sometimes at all), skipping self-care, not getting out, not maintaining friendships, and a few other self-destructive issues. Excessively monitoring and correcting a partner (with the silent treatment, no less!) Walking is much better for me, sure it isnt strenuous (seriously, WTF????) He Stops Chasing You & Being Romantic. Asking this question can highlight how very much NOT his business some of the issues are while also clarifying if there *are* legitimate areas of discontent (Doing most of the housework is not working for me any more; can we talk about some chores you could take on?). Let me restate, with emphasis: Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I thought we were going to back off on this thing where you are my trainer., What did you eat when I was out of town? Dont really have a list, but it was delicious. (Female ones personally, I havent found this phenomenon to be in any way gendered. Ashlyn Cook, 25, appeared in Kalgoorlie Magistrates Court on Monday where she . One way we help one another is literally asking How can I help support you on this? Let your thoughts sit while your jealousy simmers down a little bit. OK, clearly Im not making you happy here, what with my not exercising right and not eating well enough and doing the dishes as frequently as you like. But if he does choose to be a relationship with you, he IS obligated not to be a condescending asshole about it. For a relationship to survive a crisis like that, you have to like the person (not just love them) and respect the person (not just love them). Give him some space to take care of his things and do what he needs to do before you start making demands on how much time he should be spending with you or expecting that your relationship will always come first every single time without question. And if hes not interested in investigating ways to help you were back to Case A: Raging Arsehole. I had a sudden and first time episode of pretty bad depression after being with my husband for 5+ years. May 18, 2020 by Emily Cappiello. He has ridiculously good boundaries, because its always clear to him who owns what. Sorry for the mix-up! Fun schmun, he can chop thirty onions and keep his mouth shut. You Police Their Food Or Body. What can I say to make him want me again? I have been with my husband for 23 years, and he is chronically clinically depressed. Or maybe your boyfriend hasnt really been invested from the beginning and what seemed like an effort on his part was simply because he felt obliged to try since you gave him such strong signals early on. And with your wife, there may be things you can do that help, but they are probably concrete gestures. Then reluctantly, because I was learning my own tastes, and Im not fond of tea in any of its many flavors. You know what they do respond to? What do you do when your boyfriend stops making an effort? Heres some signs your relationship is over in all but name and Facebook status: It may seem like a good thing if you and your man never fight, but take it from a dude I never want to be wrong. What did you just say to me? And I think thats a super sweet thing to do, because sometimes we need explicit cues from others that they care about us and arent secretly frowning at us. Its a hard thing to let go when youre not sure if your loved one will sink or swim, but you have to let go and let them do for themselves, or you just end up smothering them and the relationship. Send any friend a story As a subscriber, you have 10 gift articles to give . Dont bring past grievances into it, either. Emotions are *who we are* and theres no such thing as a feeling or desire that is incorrect or illegitimate. I think your bf is in love with the idea of the person he wants to make you into, the person he wants you to look and act like in other words, hes in love with himself as he sees himself manifest through you. Maybe not just the you he wants to make you into, but also the him who is Cool and Helpful and Makes Things Better so he doesnt want to accept that what hes doing is hurting you, because thatd mean hes not Cool or Helpful or Making Things Better and hasnt been for a while. If he reacts poorly, or if LW feels unable to give advice because he claims that means theyre unsupportive (an only-to-real double standard), then that is key information and likely points to the impending doom of the relationship. Totally. He may have had his fun with you, but now he is ready to move on. Does your therapist think that this is normal and helpful behavior? Your b/f much to his dismay, perhaps is not the boss of you. If you are depressed, and your partner likes and loves you, and wants to help you with care and recovery, theres a real risk theyll become frustrated and upset when presented with evidence that progress isnt happening. How much cleaning does HE do? Ugh, logick-y dudes who want to tell you how to run your life. I know it's hard - especially when you love a guy who keeps pushing you away - but it's crucial to loosen your grip. I think a lot of it springs from an idea that partners make decisions together and tackle projects together, and theyve made the mistake of mis categorizing you as a project. Oh, LW, my heart is breaking for you. Like others have mentioned, its super uncool and scary when people use logic and reason as an excuse to ignore other peoples feelings, but when they do that, they also ignore the fact that feelings are real factors that need to be taken into consideration. When my sister who is also my best friend has something shes trying to do, like not eat badly, or do X activity for two weeks, I ask her ahead of time before she starts what if anything she wants me to do. Certainly housework affects him, but what LW eats and how much she exercises doesnt. Im so frustrated that youre hurting, and that I cant do more to help your recovery. Reasonable. Cant remember him ever doing this either. LW, you describe your partner as angry, and the type of anger is such that you qualify it as he never lashes out. We have no investment in that relationship, we dont feel the love they share. Just as your spouse needs time to heal from their alcohol addiction, you also need time to recover from the emotional and mental traumas of addiction. Some people even go on partial social media detox by simply using them for messaging, on the other hand avoiding watching people's stories. I get the feeling that even if LW does everything the boyfriend wants, and eats all her veggies and does a few triathlons and gets a job modeling for Vogue and is elected President of the Universe, there will always still be something else for him to criticize. It took someone else to look horrified and reading the archives of CA or me to realise he would continue to hurt me because he didnt care about Actual me and my Actual feelings but the Girlfriend who he had in his head that bore no relation to who I was at all. Being badgered about food choices and exercise choices isnt going to help the LW build good habits. Also a lot of people staying in abusive marriages because leaving wasnt an option. Do you know what actually made me feel so much better? From what you are saying, I sense that no matter what happens with you, he will likely always want to maintain that edge and actually doesnt have the goal of you two being on the same level. Hi LW I havent read through the comments yet, so maybe this has been covered (probably it has, the Awkwardeers are brilliant), but I couldnt not weigh in on this because I have been where you are and it sucks, and now I am somewhere else where it sucks a whole lot less, so if you dont mind, perhaps a view from the other side would be helpful? A big thing about this for me is the control he seems to want over your life. Wow, what a trainwreck/mindfuck. I think doing the opposite of that can also be helpful. And he could never admit that it was all about him. This is a guy who hasnt figured out that the people you love arent improvement projects. Ive seen it with Dan Savage, Dear Prudence, and lots of other people who offer advice in various forms of media. Some men just dont want to be committed; it is not your responsibility to change that. Ikind of feel like a great, positive life change that will help combat depression is getting this dude the hell away from where you are, OP. Make sure that the issues you address in your list are really what is bothering you. Towards the end of our relationship, he became toxic, rude, and lazy. There is something intimate about sweating next to your partner. I have an ex my friend refers to as The Physical Manifestation of MellifluousDissents (Formerly) Low Self-Esteem. I suspect this b/f may belong to that club as well. 1. He isnt attempting to start any type of dialogue at all! Helpful. The fact that you said, complete with arm-flailing inflatable tube-men and blinky neon arrows, Hey, your helpyness is actually making my depression worse/making it harder for me to make changes, and HE DOUBLED DOWN makes me worried and also kind of like I want to smack him with a dead fish on your behalf (Im a whitefish knight, har de har har). Do you think you might try that?-level of caretaking from and for a partner, and it sucks to be in either role when you dont know if or when things will get better. But it will definitely *not* help if Im already in a funk, other than possibly giving me an excuse to go outside and do something vaguely useful-feeling. Take a step back, and allow the other person to show you what they want. Comfort is a vital part of challenging yourself. What could have turned him off about you in particular? Try to find something low key that has a predictable, repeatable structure so you see some of the same people every time and can form connections naturally over time. man, you know, there is even an episode of star trek entirely about how when Spock tries to logic everything, the human crew gets really upset with him and McCoy is like emotion exists you dick and Spocks like the deuce you say BUT THEN HE STARTS TO ACCOUNT FOR HUMAN EMOTIONS IN HIS DECISION MAKING AND STUFF WORKS BETTER. People do get used to roles, and if youve been in the role of the sick one who needs help and your partner got used to the role of the competent one who knows what should be done and should be listened to, then you are challenging those roles by getting healthier. Oh, this reminds me so much of one or two friends Ive had. (Like money, work, how one treats others possessions, punctuality, use or misuse of power, objectively insulting words, etc.) You cant have every moment be a comfortable one otherwise youre never actually challenging yourself, but they are needed otherwise you burn out. didnt care to be badgered about things and it needed to stop. Belittling my feelings. Second, this worries me, the idea that his view is likely if she just does these things, I wont have to deal with her being depressed.. There are certainly some grave warning signs here the passive aggression being one of them; its so easy to let someone know how little you mean to them by ignoring them in the day to day, withdrawing affection and communication. Sometimes I hope that these people (whose letters and calls make me very sad for them sometimes) read the message they just sent, or listen to the sound of their own voice, and realize before the response even comes that its time to DTMFA. For instance, it takes me 20 minutes to get out the door in the morning: wake up, shower, comb hair, brush teeth, eat breakfast, out the door. I love you anyway is, in practice, almost nothing like I love you. I dont think that his intent upset or control you but a desire for you to do better born from a internal selfishness that it would make his life better or easier. When I left my abusive family? Because cookies were next to my bed. hes in love with himself as he sees himself manifest through you. But the way he goes about it is you need to exercise today. I certainly noticed the drop in my fitness when I moved cities to a place where I could no longer walk to work every day. Walking is brilliant (assuming you have the spoons and physical ability to do it) its gentler on your joints than a lot of other cardio, you dont need special clothing, and its free. This boyfriend does not sound like good news to me. It doesnt sound like the boyfriend is helping the LW at all in this area; if anything, hes making changing food and exercise habits into a huge source of stress. Talk to your boyfriend in a quiet, calm setting. He seems quieter than usual Your conversations are brief, and he doesn't appear to be as interested in your life anymore. Not really. My ironclad rule now is to keep distance from people who respond to this thing you do hurts me with anything but, Im so sorry, are you okay? I think there are some other strategies you can follow that will improve things for you. But when he starts talking about how hes going to end it they cant help but treat you differently. When someone we know cheated on a beloved partner, he had trouble wrapping his head around why someone would possibly do that. Not okay. How does this affect you? It makes me feel bad when you dont eat your vegetables because I caaaaaaaaaaare about you.. Demand constant direct Snaps, video calls, phone calls and dedicated videos. People who base their identity around fixing you have a major investment in keeping you broken. Even if youre really busy with work, uni, or whatever it is that keeps you tied up all day and night long he used to make sure there was always time for the two of you. And I know it takes me less effort to make myself presentable for people coming over to visit me, than it does to get out of the house. In some cases, he may have been at the point where it was becoming too serious for him. One of my partners was doing something like this for a spell there. Your jerkbrain beats you up enough when you have depression. Im glad the accidentally-posted link might be of use to you, and Im sorry that youre dealing with stuff similar to Drownings letter. It doesnt matter what a partner is interested in controlling, your food intake, your hairstyle, how much work you do, how much sleep you get; when theyre trying to control you and cannot seem to be redirected, it is time to take the advice of the Doctor. It can be a nice, easy way to do social. Both of the above. Try and find the root cause of why your partner is taking it 2. What can I do for them?, Im sad because the person I love is being sad at me, and it would be so much easier if they were happy. I recognize that it can be really frustrating to coexist with someone elses depression, but the thing is, your boyfriend is not obligated to stay if he cant deal with it. He likes the you in his head that he wants to shape you into being. Thankfully, I like to cook, and shell eat anything I put in front of her except fish, so getting a healthy meal into her is relatively easy. Then, repeat what you want him to do and make the boundary plain: I hear you, but I want to be clear: I dont want you to do that anymore., Please stop correcting me and advising me., I appreciate all the help and support youve given me, but I actually need to navigate this on my own., I dont like it when you tell me what to do., The Silent Treatment is really not cool., Youre not the boss of how I eat or exercise, and I think its going to be healthier going forward if you stop monitoring that stuff and if I stop reporting it to you as if you are my nutritionist or trainer.*, I dont need you to change me or to be right about this, I just need you to love me and trust me to do the right thing for myself., I realize I was in bad shape for a while, but as I try to get better, Id like it if you would stop monitoring all these things about me and just found a way to enjoy my company., You may be right about that, but Id still like to handle this on my own without your input., I know you want to help, but I would like to set a boundary around advice-giving. True story: I knew I needed to break up with my exboyfriend when I started composing Captain Awkward letters in my head. Jedi hugs, if you want them. Im starting to have a shoulders-to-the-ears reaction any time a LW mentions how logical or reasonable their partner is. Even if he genuinely wants you to be well and capable and happy, instead of just better conformed to the you he wants, hes being hlepy. Hes interested in his version of you. Dating you is a privilege you get to grant people, not a burden someone is doing you the favour of shouldering. Whenever my boyfriend goes out of town, I deal with missing him by cooking all the things he doesnt like, such as spicy food. One notable occasion was when I got interested in a new industry and there was a 3 day workshop I wanted to attend. Dont. People who genuinely are that logical will tie themselves in knots trying to analyze their own feelings. The thing to watch for is a change in how they behave. Friend, I miss you and Id love to see your face. Im severely disabled, so maintaining social links is tougher. My therapist is big on one thing at a time, and if the way I was going to get my paper done on time was by subsisting on the cookies I could reach from my bed, well hey, the papers done! Just continuous improvement and waiting to be happy. This is another clue that the boyfriend isnt all that invested in the LWs progress toward real, positive change. Things are a lot better, although sometimes I (or my other partner) have to remind him. its one of the downsides of having a toddler he still needs decent meals to function at anything like a survivable level. you can do it! the whole time. In some cases, he may have been enjoying chasing you more than having caught you. This is not a democracy. Also, for what its worth, I hate the Im so logical, therefore I know everything and Im right all the time thing. It's no secret that men aren't eager to discuss feelings. You didnt give details, but you did say that for much of your life, youve struggled with being constantly undermined. Him: Im disappointed that you arent trying to improve your diet the way I said. You: NOT YOUR CALL.. Thats a complicated and unpleasant thing to wrestle with every time you step onto an elliptical. Because housework affects everyone in the house, but what LW puts in their body, and how LW exercises? Sometimes weve done well when he asks me what I think Im doing. But this is what worried me most when I read your letter. And there's a reason he can't let go of her, and there's a reason you feel like the bond you have with . And you dont need to accept this as appropriate treatment. Some of the things the LW mentioned (such as helping with chores) certainly could affect the boyfriend, while there are other things (the LWs exercise and food intake) that do NOT affect the boyfriend. But it can be useful to remember that the other person may be engaged in a positive struggle to live their life, even if looks maddeningly like the opposite from outside. but wanted to make sure you knew he wasnt judging/minding/caring about your choice of snack. My Boyfriend Passed Away Suddenly, and This Is What Grief Feels Like. I will always be a survivor of sexual assault and emotional abuse who has depression and obsessive compulsive tendencies. He would say, We really need to work on your sense of adventure and getting you to be more open to new experiences. He always said we, as though this was a joint project. i suffer from anxiety, have self esteem issues and insecuriti. Having a jerkbrain say them is hard enough. But Im definitely not saying you need to DTMF right away. Changing roles is hard even for people with the best hearts and intentions and experiencing some friction around that isnt really a surprise, so if you have trust and like and respect, you *might* look past and/or forgive the Logick Kraken the first time or two it comes out to play. He both wanted me to look up to him, admire him, and follow his lead, and for me to be a more confident, assertive person who dressed sexier, partied heartier, and loved to dance. Hlep is that thing that looks like help and is presented in a context that would normally surround helpuntil you blink and look again and realize that it isnt help at all. But I know we never get the whole story with these letters. Being The One Who Helps gives you a bit of power and a (falsely) elevated self-esteem. He just doesn't feel the need (we used to have sex often, before the . But maybe dipping my toes in the LWs progress toward real, positive change were to. 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